Sunday, October 07, 2007

In The Mind of Norman Podhoretz

There's always another world war lurking just around the corner.

Norman Podhoretz, a senior foreign policy adviser in Rudolph Giuliani’s 2008 presidential campaign, held a non-publicized meeting with George Bush late last spring at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in New York.

Karl Rove, who was still serving in the White House as Bush’s deputy chief of staff, took notes. But the meeting, which lasted 45 minutes, was not logged on the president’s schedule. But Podhoretz is providing current history with his side of it. In an interview with The Sunday Times, he told Bush:
You have the awesome responsibility to prevent another holocaust. You’re the only one with the guts to do it.

I urged Bush to take action against the Iranian nuclear facilities and explained why I thought there was no alternative. . . I laid out the worst-case scenario – bombing Iran – versus the worst-case consequences of allowing the Iranians to get the bomb.

The president looked very solemn. . . He gave not the slightest indication of whether he agreed with me, but he listened very intently. . . The president has said several times that he will be in the historical dock if he allows Iran to get the bomb. He believes that if we wait for threats to fully materialize, we’ll have waited too long – something I agree with 100%. . . George Bush will not leave office with Iran having acquired a nuclear weapon or having passed the point of no return.
Of his current protege, Podhoretz said, Giuliani
... doesn’t call it world war four, but I know he thinks it is. . . The key to understanding what is happening is to see it as a successor to the previous totalitarian challenge to our civilisation.
During the CNN Republican Presidential Debate last June, Giuliani said he would consider using nuclear weapons to destroy Iranian nuclear power:
Thus is the torch passed on to the next generation.

6 Moderated Comments:

Blogger Messenger said...

I have it in my notes that Richard Perle is confident that Hillary Clinton is prepared to order military strikes against Iran if President Ahmadinejad weaponizes Iranian nuclear research:

If President Clinton is informed in March 2009 that we’ve got ironclad intelligence that if we don’t act within the next 30 days it’s going to be too late, I wouldn’t begin to predict what she would do. Nobody wants to act before it is absolutely essential . . . but things can change very quickly.

10/07/2007 08:00:00 AM  
Blogger Commander Zaius said...

Found this on wikipedia:

In an interview, Podhoretz considered the consequences of bombing Iran:

Q: What kind of international fallout can we expect from such a campaign?

PODHORETZ: Well, if we were to bomb the Iranians as I hope and pray we will, we’ll unleash a wave of anti-Americanism all over the world that will make the anti-Americanism we’ve experienced so far look like a lovefest. On the other hand — that’s a worst case scenario, and worst case scenarios don’t always materialize. It’s entirely possible that many countries, particularly in the Middle East — the Sunni countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, who are very worried about Iranian influence and power — would at least secretly applaud us. And I think it’s possible that other countries in Europe, for example, and elsewhere, would be relieved to see the Iranians entirely deprived of the capability to build nuclear weapons, or at least have that ability retarded for five or 10 years or more

This shit sounds a lot like the stuff we heard about us being greeted in Iraq as liberators.

10/07/2007 06:13:00 PM  
Blogger Sapo said...

That guy is nuts.

No more fundie Presidents.


10/09/2007 07:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Podhoretz is a typical zionist nurjob. Google "All in the neocon family" to see how closely linked all these judeofascists are.

10/10/2007 12:12:00 AM  
Blogger Messenger said...

Good beach-combing, BeachBum. Here's a list of More Neo-Cons for Giuliani.

10/13/2007 08:42:00 AM  
Blogger Pink Liberty said...

These guys are so unbelievable. They think that they are "realistic" about today, but they are really thinking that they are living with Truman's circumstances--when he bombed Japan with no retaliation from anyone. How else could they believe that there won't be a nuclear counterattack, against us, or against Israel if we nuke Iran? From Pakistan? From North Korea? We can't keep Turkey from invading Iraq right now, how will we stop a nuclear power?! They are insulting our intelligence and endangering our lives...they should be discredited and thrown out of power ASAP. I pray that this is just stupid posturing and that the United States really does have affective alternatives for standing in the way of terrorism. God help us.

10/19/2007 09:04:00 AM  

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